I'm wondering if Harbin is worth a night for the price. I'm mainly into undeveloped springs like the kind you find in the Eastern Sierra.
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Wed, January 24, 2007 - 12:29 PMI visited Harbin several times and had an OK time but I notice I don't seem to be returning. I found the place unreasonably crowded and with a not-especially-warm vibe -- the place felt too urban and detached. But then I'm no longer in my 30s and I'm not from the Bay Area, which probably says it all.
A nice compromise is a soak at Sierra Hot Springs, Harbin's scruffy little sibling about 30 miles north of Truckee. It's developed, but modestly, and there are also little 1-2 person scattered around the property. There's never a crowd and the setting on the westermost edge of the Great Basin is beautifully spare. Enjoy!
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Fri, January 26, 2007 - 12:12 PMI too was disappointed with Harbin for all the reasons you mentioned, I prefer primitive, undeveloped, natural hot springs. I tried out Harbin after some Bay area people reccomended it, then later realized my mistake...I do not like anything about the Bay area and should have known better than to listen to a tip from someone who lives there! -
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Sat, January 27, 2007 - 3:57 PMSorry guys but I must disaggree. I love Harbin! I have been to many other springs on my cross country trip last winter and I guess it is all according to what you are looking for. Harbin is not just a spring it is a community. It is a place to explore and study many paths and I have been blessed to partake in the sweatlodges, yoga, dances, and kirtans.
As far as price goes I don't think it is expensive at all when you can stay in the dorms for $30 and soak,steam,meditate, and make your own food in the communal kitchen.
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Sun, January 28, 2007 - 10:38 AMYou hit the nail on the head...it is all depends what you are looking for...Harbin is the place if you are looking for the community oriented experience.
My ideal soaks are more like the springs you would find in Idaho, remote, undeveloped and pristine, surrounded by nature with no sign or sounds of man. -
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Fri, February 2, 2007 - 9:14 PMHarbin can also be the place to go if you don't want a full-on camping experience but you want to relax. Definitely though, Harbin can be trying at times if you aren't into lots of people. I think it is an okay compromise between the "I want to sleep in a bed, eat at a cafe" type person and someone who just wants to make their own meals and a bit of solitude. Depends on the people, the crowd, and the season.
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Sat, January 27, 2007 - 11:34 PMHarbin is definitely a people place, more of a self contained community with a lot of stuff going on. But there's also a lot of beautiful land there to get some solitude if you like. I'd say try another place if you're not comfortable with a lot of folks around. Sierra is much more low key, also there's Benton Hot Springs near the Nevada border which has a small bed and breakfast and is out in the middle of nowhere.
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Sat, February 3, 2007 - 6:00 PMHarbin does have more of a "scene" than most other hot springs. I'm not going into any details; suffice it to say that I go to Harbin to be on personal retreat, usually with one friend, eat the food I like, do some reading, and soak in the oh-so-very-fine water. Orr Hot Springs is my personal favorite, but if it's magma-hot and winter-cold baths you're looking for, Harbin just can't be beat. I always prefer to go to Harbin...Orr also for that matter...during the off season. Less people, less crowding in the kitchen, discounted seasonal rates, gotta love it. If the idea of development is a downer for you, Harbin is just about as developed a community as you can imagine, outside of a McSpa in Calistoga.
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Mon, April 21, 2008 - 3:42 PMI went to harbin recently. I was wondering the same thing as you. Im glad we checked it out, but I didnt fall in love. Id rather drive the extra distance and go to orr.
The land is beautiful, that was the best part for me.
THe new-age-iness was too over the top, and I like new-age-iness. Def. picked up on the hey baby vibe, though it seemed exclusive to one area, by the very hot pool. I stayed in the heart shaped pool, as there was no action there. It was also on a thur-friday so it wasnt in full swing. Though watsu was in full force.
They didn't mention when we booked that they would be using a bulldozer and sledgehammer in the pool area. That was also over the top. We got a good laugh from it, as it was like a bad movie.
Overall, I dont think Id go back(unless there was a special reason). I can spend my money and time and go to one of faves like orr or sierra. For bigger adventure, mono. I liked wilbur more than harbin, but i didnt fall in love with wilbur either.
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Mon, April 21, 2008 - 5:26 PMI lke Harbin though it has its problems. prefer places that are more family friendly (that rules out Orr's these days..)the new Age tantra stuf is a bitt thick for me too...personally like hanging out in the heart pool because it's where the folks with kids are.
closest hot springs retrreat to Bay Area though. WIlbur is expensive now. andOrr has almost"banned"chidlren and teens.
I wish they had a soaking pool somewhere between he temp of the warm pool and heart pool and the hot pool...
I like Sierra Hot Springs,which is loosely affiliated with Harbin.much smaller/less ambitious about being a village,definitely more accepting of children and teens.
then,if you havea reason to be there,like a personal retreator a weekend class or one of their special days,there's Esalen in the other direction... -
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Fri, July 11, 2008 - 9:18 AMPlease try Orr Hot Springs. I've been to Harbin twice now, and had all the same experiences described here, travelling as a single girl.
Orr is soooo much more down to earth, easy to get into the flow of, and has great cats!
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Wed, July 23, 2008 - 1:10 PMI like Harbin, and seem to keep returning to it. I've been to Sierra, and while I liked it too, I found the hike to the springs and back to be tiresome.
Can someone give a good "defense" of Orr? A defense in the sense of a good argument for checking it out? I've never been. What are its strengths and weaknesses?
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